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Post by Captain SpExtacular on Jun 8, 2007 20:24:44 GMT -5
Ok i just finished a 10 page report on this subject so i know alot about it. I personally came to the conclusion that if we all had guns there would be alot less crime. And i wached Bowling for Columbine (Yes, its a Michal Moore film however it was very well done. I'm very right wing btw) and he came to the conclusion that is the American media that contributes to the amount of unique violence that spawns here.
I really want other people's oppinions on this ;D
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Post by Nightmare on Jun 8, 2007 22:33:40 GMT -5
If you don't have a gun, and someone breaks into your house, tell me, how are you going to shoot them? XD
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Post by swimstud600 on Jun 8, 2007 22:47:31 GMT -5
Can't say my house has ever been broken into. And I suspect yours hasn't been either Nighty.
On the offhand I like gun control because: 1. Easy access to guns is a far larger contributor to school shootings and other violence than things like TV or video games. But ultimately its not guns, they may play a part but its the idiot parents who don't keep weapons out of little kid's hands. 2. I know some pretty trigger happy idiots, redneck to the core and unstable as hell. I'm afraid to talk to them the wrong way, I honestly think I could get shot.
And then at the same time, I posted that story awhile back about the kid who broke into my Grandfather's house and came at him with a knife, I'm glad my grandfather had a rifle next to his bed.
I'd have to say that guns are ok for hunting and target practice and to keep inside your home. But they don't need to be more accessable than that, if its for protection it has to stay in your home. And protection can consist of some handguns, theres no need for machine guns. I've even heard of fools who keep explosives in their homes for 'protection.' All these idiots with guns on the street, thats what we have cops for. So guns need to be regulated to an extent but I would oppose banning them completely.
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Post by Nightmare on Jun 9, 2007 1:22:12 GMT -5
I believe guns should be used responsibly, but people should still be allowed to use em. >.>;
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Post by Professor Fann on Jun 9, 2007 2:21:40 GMT -5
I accidentally voted NO Gun Control. My vote's for YES Gun Control actually. But I would prefer TOTAL NO GUNS for anyone in society, except the civil armed forces and the army. That way, society is more controlled and lacks the more serious death threat to people.
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Post by Captain SpExtacular on Jun 12, 2007 21:35:37 GMT -5
Don't worry I think i voted in the wong spot to =D So we'll call it even.
Ok, Pop quiz, if your a criminal and you had a choice between robbing two old ladies, one on one side of street and one on the other. Now, both have a load of cash XD, but one is pakin and Uzie(and held machine gun bassically) which are you gonna rob?
I can't wait for when i turn 21 so i can just walk around carrying an M-16, as long as you can see it its legal! If its hidden then you need the licence. And its my right as an American citizen to shoot when threatend, all thanks to the constitution and the second amendment =D.
@ Swimm: The Average police responce time is around 20 minutes, and i mean really, do you trust them to secure every firearm so we dont get shot? As for those rednecks...well...I dont know, but just give them cheese and all shall be good.
@ MFWriter: A total ban on all legal guns would only leave the ones accuired illegaly.
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Post by swimstud600 on Jun 13, 2007 0:14:06 GMT -5
SpEX, have you ever seen an old lady being mugged? Have you ever been mugged? I'm not thinking so. Its paranoia. Think about it like this, do you really want an Uzie in the hands of an old lady who can't see, hear, or aim a machine gun in her fragile old hands? She's gonna cause more harm than good.
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Post by Professor Fann on Jun 13, 2007 2:56:14 GMT -5
A total ban on guns meaning taht all its knowledge of pbhysics would have to be kept locked away as top secret. From factory point. No guns for anyone, not even illegally. But I'm being idealistic here.
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Post by Nightmare on Jun 13, 2007 3:07:11 GMT -5
Guns don't kill people. People kill people. Guns shouldn't be held responsible for people killing one and other. Guns are just a tool, like a wrench, or a screwdriver, or a knife. Any tool can kill.
If we totally ban guns, how are the police force to protect us from violent criminals? Or go hunting, so we can eat?
The fact of the matter is, without war there is no peace. Without conflict, there is no serenity. Without evil, there is no good. As much as we'd all like to believe all the problems with society can be fixed by doing something as simple as banning guns, it's not gonna happen. =/
Of course, I'm not condoning misuse of guns, don't get me wrong. I don't think guns should just be given to ANYONE, and I think the world would benefit from having stricter laws as far as carrying firearms goes. But completely banning guns would not only be impossible, but even if it were successful, it wouldn't really solve anything.
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Post by Professor Fann on Jun 13, 2007 3:12:56 GMT -5
True, by that time comes where guns are totally banned, except in the farming and civil armed forces, the next thing to deal with is moral. But that'll take a long time.
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Post by Nightmare on Jun 13, 2007 4:17:26 GMT -5
Well, my point is restricting guns to just a select group of people won't work, neither will banning them completely. Guns have already been introduced into the world of man, and because of it's many uses, I don't think they'll ever go away. You'd probobly have a batter chance at banning pants than guns. =/
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Post by HZ on Jun 13, 2007 5:16:32 GMT -5
Polls not working for me -_-'
And I agree with Nightmare, guns have been introduced, so now people can use them, and banning them goes against the "right to bear arms" amendment.
However, there needs to be a stricter level of control on the retailers that sell firearms, I don't know what kind will help, but really kids are getting ahold of guns and causing horrendous accidents.
And the parents who already own guns need to keep them out of reach of kids, or keep the safety lock on.
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Post by swimstud600 on Jun 13, 2007 7:58:36 GMT -5
I agree that guns shouldn't and at this point can't be banned, I just want a little more control. I agree, guns don't kill people. Guns do however help people kill people and are more practical for murdering someone than a wrench or screwdriver. Also guns, unlike wrenches and screwdrivers have no purpose other than shooting things, thats what they're meant for. If we totally ban guns, how are the police force to protect us from violent criminals? Or go hunting, so we can eat? As far as this: What do we live in the stoneage? "Grunt, Nighty go kill antelope, bring back dinner for mate, grunt." I'm not against hunting but thats a pretty bad arguement, you can just go down to the ol' supermarket and but your antelope steaks there. Or if you've gotta have the satisfaction of killing your meal, try fishing? But I'm not against hunting so I'll leave that be. Have you ever been assaulted by violent criminals Nightmare? You think its necessary to pack a loaded SP Power 90 everywhere you go, just in case someone decides to knife you for your long hair? Paranoid much? You don't need to walk down the street with a machine gun, thats causing more trouble than it solves.
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Post by Nightmare on Jun 13, 2007 14:41:52 GMT -5
Well, how do you think the meat gets to the Super Market? The meat doesn't kill itself and walk to the processers, now does it? >_>
And no, I don't carry around a gun. I don't even carry a knife. Someone doesn't like my hair I'll deal with em with my bare hands. <_<;
As I already stated, I agree there needs to be a little more control, but guns aren't going anywhere, unless you can invent something more convinient than a gun that's more deadly. >.>;
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Post by Jadax on Jun 14, 2007 2:25:54 GMT -5
OBJECTION TO THIS THREAD, for its not a gun its the person wielding the gun, for at that point pull the trigger, so the matter is that what should we do about people and not about guns, PEOPLE CONTROL, not Gun Control
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