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Post by Professor Fann on Apr 29, 2007 16:01:02 GMT -5
Wily just wanted th world, but he never really saw the idea of having Reploids in his dominion. And the MM7 part of Bass stealing the blueprints for Rush upgrades, Wily told him to do so, NOT his own actions.
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Post by J.Y. on Apr 30, 2007 10:05:04 GMT -5
So there we go mentioning about Willy's bad deeds again. It seems that if megaman series problems and plotholes form into a circle, Dr. Willy will definitely but the center of attraction.
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Post by Andrew on Apr 30, 2007 21:28:11 GMT -5
Wily told BASS to do it. Bass has little freewill, being a robot. Zero on the other hand, didn't have to listen to anything Dr. Wily ever said, if Zero was ever activated when Wily was still alive.
And Zero was based off of X, how could Wily have designed Zero off of X without the blueprints. Bass took them both, as someone said earlier, not going to go back and check. Bass did what Wily wanted him to do, steal the Rush upgrade, but he also did something on his own and took the blueprints for X.
Also, the Laws of Robotics don't apply to Reploids, seeing as how their Reploids and have freewill. So there really isn't anything out there that stops Reploids from doing anything except for their own experience from the get go. If someone teaches them to do the wrong things, then they are going to do the wrong things. This is why X is the way that he is. When he was activate, he had the mind of a child. And had to grow up, like a normal child would. Dr. Cain made sure that X was taught the difference between right and wrong so that X would be able to make his own choices on matters that would come up later in his life. This is the reason that he decides to join the Hunters and help take down Sigma, instead of being told to do so. He felt it was his responsibility to take down the Mavericks, since they were all based off of his design in the first place. He was their father, so to speak. And he was going to dish out some discipline.
I have no idea why I just typed all that.. >.>
~Darkness Delirium
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Post by Professor Fann on May 1, 2007 1:07:07 GMT -5
There's no real evidence saying that Bass stole the blueprints for X since it was just on the Rush upgrades, back in MM7. Post a link saying such evidence please.
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Post by J.Y. on May 1, 2007 19:51:48 GMT -5
Does the fight in MM7 with the combination of Bass and Treble part of the evidence? I don't know, just stating so.
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Post by Andrew on May 2, 2007 3:44:37 GMT -5
How else would Zero have been based off of X's design, Msia, if the blueprints hadn't been stolen from Light? Maybe it wasn't Bass himself, maybe it was Wily hacking Light's computer. Maybe it was MIND BULLETS.
Maybe you should just shut up?
~Darkness Delirium
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Post by Professor Fann on May 2, 2007 5:50:47 GMT -5
Following JY - Yes, the second fight with Bass only that he can fly around with Treble attaching to him is the proof of that. After all, Wily was most interested in defeating Megaman at the point of time and up to MM8, but never in X's design.
Following Darkness - you do not have the right to ask other people to shut up provided the events of this arguements spread over to the entire site.
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Post by J.Y. on May 2, 2007 6:55:57 GMT -5
We need peace among you two man. Or else the forum will need some fire-fighters. I'm serious.
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Post by Xero Bloodline on May 2, 2007 15:40:19 GMT -5
Alright, everybody calm down a bit. This is a thread with alot of room for speculation, so there's gonna be some differences in opinion. But you don't have to get angry and start flaming each other. So start playing nice, please.
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Post by Professor Fann on May 2, 2007 22:38:24 GMT -5
Once again, I agree whole-heartedly with the Master.
And back on topic - MM7, when you defeat all 8 bosses, Light's lab is devastated and such - I may not come across any sources on teh text, but Light only stated that the Rush upgrades were stolen and given that point of time, the idea of making X was non-existent.
Even more on topic - Choose the human side people! Don't waste your lifes over battles. Replods are regeneratable and tehy are fit for the job.
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Post by Andrew on May 3, 2007 1:29:36 GMT -5
Forget being a meatbag, your life is short and Mavericks target you first.
And in reponse to Msia from earlier: I have the right to do whatever I want. When you have some way to make me stop saying things, so be it. Until then deal with my foul language and general bad behaviour. Kthx.
And in response to Msia now; So what you're saying is that in the entire game of MM8, Dr. Light designed, gathered the parts, and constructed X. Do you think he would even mention to Megaman that he was creating a replacement? I don't think so, in my personal opinion. Megaman could turn out like Bass and believe he was being replaced and that feeling might have forced him to rebel.
~Darkness Delirium
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Post by Professor Fann on May 3, 2007 1:45:06 GMT -5
And in response to Msia now; So what you're saying is that in the entire game of MM8, Dr. Light designed, gathered the parts, and constructed X. Do you think he would even mention to Megaman that he was creating a replacement? I don't think so, in my personal opinion. Megaman could turn out like Bass and believe he was being replaced and that feeling might have forced him to rebel. ~Darkness Delirium Whoever said that all that happened in MM8?The more logical idea would be that it happened WAY after MM8. And since when was Dr Light going to replace Megaman with X with that kind of intention? That's just wrong. He just wanted to create a more advanced robot with a free will, not make on and throw the old one out in the garbage. X may have free will and that's better than Megaman, but Dr Light will never have the heart to throw away a creation of his own. Consider Power Fighters 2 as canon or not in your view, Dr Light knew that Protoman was his own creation. Did he force the latter to come back? No. He saw the anomalies but why did he offer the chance for repairs? Out of his heart for care into the first robot he ever made. That shows Light's affectionate side and it's unlikely he would ever do the same to the rest.
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Post by J.Y. on May 3, 2007 16:59:14 GMT -5
(sits down and eats popcorn) At least the debate gone a little steady.
I'll have to look at the comments of you guys and see which side is better. (leaves)
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Post by Andrew on May 4, 2007 4:39:56 GMT -5
I'm done with yet another debate. I find these pointless, because no matter how many canon facts people come up with, no one changes their opinions.
And I'm sure as hell not going to change mine. So, my side of this debate is over. Someone else continue where I've left off.
Not that important to me anyway.
~Darkness Delirium
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Post by Professor Fann on May 4, 2007 5:49:56 GMT -5
You're welcome to go ahead and join and leave any debates you want, Darkness. It's democracy after all. (sits down and eats popcorn) At least the debate gone a little steady. I'll have to look at the comments of you guys and see which side is better. (leaves) I think you'll need to re-read teh whole thread and come up with your own ideas and thoughts for that.
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