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Z.E.R.O
Apr 19, 2007 23:36:03 GMT -5
Post by viruszero on Apr 19, 2007 23:36:03 GMT -5
CQC (Close Quarters Combat) makes games tougher, just being able to sit back and blast a hole in your opponent without going near doesn't prove as much skill (except Contra.... but that's Konami.) Sure you have to dodge some, but you have that split second extra you need to do it, thusly the game is way easier. (I'm ofcourse basing this on a first run play through- not if you've memorized every bosses moves and patterns, in which case neither matters.)
Zero provides that experience. It also allows you to take a break from playing as Megaman X.
Also Zero's attitude may well attract people. Many would prefer a hero with a tough personality, a little tragedy in their past and voila, instant hero. It also helps Zero seems to have a bit of a sense of humour compared to X.
Storyline wise- There is no proof X is or is not the original Megaman, and besides it is irrelevant anyway. Even if X isn't the original, he still was based on the same designs (hence the name megaman) but he was upgraded far beyond the original (the adding of the X to his name- I believe signifying his unlimited potential. As X in programming is a variable. It can be used as needed.)
But is Zero better than X? well that depends on personal preference.
For me, it's hard to say, which of them I like better.
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Z.E.R.O
Apr 21, 2007 5:38:17 GMT -5
Post by ZIR0)N on Apr 21, 2007 5:38:17 GMT -5
I vote no. X is merciful and that's a good thing. Unless you're Sigma, then you're good as dead. It's really a popularity contest, not about what is really going on. Yeah, I know capcom had the idea of going with Zero for the X series. But so what? Zero looks cool...yawn, like there isn't enough "cool" characters. X has a lot more going on than Zero. X just wants to find a peaceful solution to every problem. But that doesn't mean he's not willing to fight to seek these goals. X...cares. If caring is a sin, then Mega Man wouldn't exist at all. That means no Zero, no Trigger, no ZX...
Another thing is that they planned to cut out Zero after X1 but brought him back because? He was popular...yeah -_-; He's Cooler, He uses a saber, he fights coldly blah blah blah. X is a lot more than just being cool.
Another thing, about X1. At the beginning, X was nearly defeated but Zero saved him no? But when they get into the fortress, Zero gets captured by Vile and was held in a cage while X fought him a modified Ride Armor. Zero had to self-destruct to destroy that ride armor. When X3 came around, X took on Vile's NEW ride armor and defeated it by himself. That reminds me...If I have my facts right, Zero's system was based off of X. So X and Zero are kinda alike.
The conclusion, there is more to X than him being a Pacifist. He's a Hero. And it takes more than a saber, red color scheme and being cool to be a hero.
I didn't say that I support X 150%, Zero has his props too. Zero has sacrificed his life in the line of duty to help X reach his goal. Peace.
Zero has fought many enemies and even the ones he cares for to seek peace. Not to mention the fact that he also fights for redemption.
Final Note: X and Zero are a team. X is what he is and Zero is what he is. You can't have one without the other. --------------------------------------------------------------------- I made this post trying to defend X from being labeled just a pacifist wussy while also showing my support for both X AND Zero.
I'll quote myself once more: "There is more to X than him being a Pacifist. He's a Hero. And it takes more than a saber, red color scheme and being cool to be a hero."
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Z.E.R.O
Apr 21, 2007 6:41:09 GMT -5
Post by Miguel on Apr 21, 2007 6:41:09 GMT -5
How about having to suffer being forced to kill someone close to you in order to stop the maniac you may have caused the evil of just to make up for the sins of your father? I think X4 proves quite well that Zero is far deeper than red armor, a green saber, and coolness aswell. They are both deep and cool in their own ways, but Zero, just ask Silver which one she preffers, and if you talk nasty about Zero, she will KICK. YOUR. ASS.
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Z.E.R.O
Apr 21, 2007 7:35:47 GMT -5
Post by ZIR0)N on Apr 21, 2007 7:35:47 GMT -5
How about having to suffer being forced to kill someone close to you in order to stop the maniac you may have caused the evil of just to make up for the sins of your father? I think X4 proves quite well that Zero is far deeper than red armor, a green saber, and coolness aswell. They are both deep and cool in their own ways, but Zero, just ask Silver which one she preffers, and if you talk nasty about Zero, she will KICK. YOUR. ASS. I would never talk badly about Zero and I have both "Zero's Introduction" and "Zero's Past" X4 clips downloaded. I also have the "Day of Sigma" movie which is what I made my post upon. I am not just a X fan nor am I a Zero fan. I am a Mega Man Fan. A simple, bona fide Mega Man Fan. A Mega Man fan for all generations and series. From Mega Man 8-Bit to Mega Man ZX
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Z.E.R.O
Apr 21, 2007 7:41:19 GMT -5
Post by Miguel on Apr 21, 2007 7:41:19 GMT -5
You mean Mega Man ZX Advent. You can find gameplay clips of it on Youtube.
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Z.E.R.O
Apr 21, 2007 7:49:42 GMT -5
Post by ZIR0)N on Apr 21, 2007 7:49:42 GMT -5
Okay, Mega Man ZX ADVENT. Point is X is not a wussy and shouldn't be called a wussy because he seeks peace instead of violence. And it takes more than being cool to be a hero. Zero is more than just cool and X is not a wussy. Nuff' said.
Can I have a cookie now? :/
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Apr 21, 2007 9:48:13 GMT -5
Post by Professor Fann on Apr 21, 2007 9:48:13 GMT -5
Well said Nova. All points weighed out good. Everyone should think like that instead of heavy biasness to certain persons like those in the previous page. This is not about ego and pride or premature preference, what Nova proves is that we should all weigh out the facts adn inner elements right. In the end, both X and Zero are equals.
By far, they have done nothing which is in such a humongous scale of which proves Zero to be better than X and vice versa. It's all about responsibility.
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Z.E.R.O
Apr 28, 2007 6:43:18 GMT -5
Post by J.Y. on Apr 28, 2007 6:43:18 GMT -5
(gives nova a cookie) Lol, if nobody's giving you one, i'll give you one. =)
but usually, the cooler one will always get a bad luck, fate or destiny. Take a look at Zero for this.
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Post by MaverickZero on May 1, 2007 7:56:53 GMT -5
X isn't important. Zero is. Listen! Without Zero the X series where never created! And besides, Zero has one interessing background story. X doesn't have a good background story like Zero... And many people think X was the first reploid, but Zero is, he is only later activated, but he is older and MORE powerfull.
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Post by ZIR0)N on May 1, 2007 8:15:11 GMT -5
This is coming from a person who is 100% Zero Fan Boy...
Did you even read my post above? because if you didn't, then that comment was pointless. Believe what you want, X is as important as Zero to the story. X helped in the creation of reploids, and Zero helped(unintentionally) in the creation of Mavericks. Without X, there would be no Reploids or Sigma and without Zero, there would be no Mavericks or Maverick Hunters.
And yes, X did come first and is older, not Zero. Go to youtube and watch the Day of Sigma movie if you don't have MHX.
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Post by Model Bx on May 1, 2007 8:15:20 GMT -5
but with out X there will be no megaman zero unless zero is in megaman X
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Z.E.R.O
May 1, 2007 11:17:10 GMT -5
Post by MaverickZero on May 1, 2007 11:17:10 GMT -5
you din't watch my post did you? X was activated EARLIER. Zero was EARLIER MADE!
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Z.E.R.O
May 1, 2007 11:39:25 GMT -5
Post by ZIR0)N on May 1, 2007 11:39:25 GMT -5
So what if he was built earlier? If he was, so what? I've made my point clear. If he wasn't, same thing. Stop trying to have Zero overshadow X as the dominant hero. X and Zero were equals in X Series. Zero was all alone in Zero series so X doesn't factor in anymore.
Wanna know something? Capcom planned to cut Zero out after X1 but brought him back due to his "popularity", he was brought back. So see, it is a popularity contest. Not about what it's really about.
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Z.E.R.O
May 1, 2007 19:54:00 GMT -5
Post by J.Y. on May 1, 2007 19:54:00 GMT -5
And due to the popularity, there we go with Megaman Zero. But till now, i guess the real answer to why Zero is so damn popular is still not yet to be given.
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Post by Professor Fann on May 2, 2007 6:00:37 GMT -5
Design?
You two, Nova and VMZ, stop bickering so hard. Even so, do it with some gentle manners please. Don't want to create a messy feeling in this debate thread.
Zero may be made earlier and X may be activated earlier, but the point we should get across is taht their qaulities are more or less the same adn they have equal impact on the society and the Maverick Hunters they are in.
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