R-Cubed
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Post by R-Cubed on Nov 24, 2007 15:12:00 GMT -5
Is tobi the Akutsuki leader? He was giving Pein orders so do you guys think he's the leader.
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Post by Nightmare on Nov 24, 2007 16:34:43 GMT -5
I'm not sure...
Tobi reffered to Pein as the leader, but yet Tobi was giving him orders...
Also, Tobi reffered to himself as Madara Uchiha then. And also, after Deidara exploded, everyone said Tobi was dead, and even Pein acknowledged that, and said that Tobi was easily replacable. Is it possible that Madara is wearing a similar mask, and Tobi is dead? Or was what Pein said all part of a clever ruse?
Another thing, Madara and Tobi speak completely different from one and other. Another ruse? Or different people?
Also, assuming Tobi IS the real leader, why was he just an agent for Zetsu before? Was it all an act? And if so, how did the coincidense that Zetsu took on Tobi as a subordinate occur?
And if Tobi was the real leader, why not tell the others? Everyone reffers to Pein as "leader." And considering the amount of respect they all had for the leader (save for Hidan) how come Deidara treated Tobi so poorly? Surely Deidara didn't know Tobi was the real leader if he is.
And assuming Madara and Tobi are one in the same, how did Tobi escape Deidaras explosion? Perhaps he was caught in it, and merely recovered quickly (an ability demonstrated when Sasuke cut Tobi with his sword) and got up and walked away?
Also, from what Jiraiya was talking about, how could Madara even still be alive? Tobi appears to be realatively young, so how could Madara Uchiha, a person who founded the Uchiha clan many many years ago, and supposedly had the power to summon the Kyuubi, be the young and clumsy Tobi we all know and love?
I dunno dude, honestly there's too many questions right now to make an accurate assumption. XD
Also, edited the title to warn for spoilers.
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Post by Knuckles on Nov 24, 2007 16:34:45 GMT -5
^when was that aain?
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Post by Nightmare on Nov 24, 2007 16:43:13 GMT -5
You mean Tobi talking to Pein, the leader? At the ends of Chapters 363 and 364.
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Post by Knuckles on Nov 24, 2007 19:43:06 GMT -5
thanks.. my bad for typos
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Post by Elusis on Nov 24, 2007 22:50:26 GMT -5
Only Pein and Konan know Darth Tobi (I'm calling him that because of his new get up.  ) is alive. Only Pein and Konan (and possibly Zetsu, but probably not) know Darth Tobi is the leader of the Akatsuki. |
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Post by Rhonoc on Nov 25, 2007 2:25:41 GMT -5
I think that Tobi was just acting up until we saw him giving orders to pein. He is actually the true leader of Akatsuki. And i think that he really is Madara, because he also has the sharingan and we know that the only ones that have it are Kakashi, Sasuke, Itachi. So the percent of Tobi being Madara is quite high.
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Post by Knuckles on Nov 25, 2007 13:53:07 GMT -5
^or he could be a survivor you know...
or someone who was away at the time... or who stole it...
c'mon
is that not more realistic then him being a long dead legendary bad guy who'd be millions of years old and had a very different personality by the looks of things?
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Post by Elusis on Nov 29, 2007 3:00:44 GMT -5
As awesome it would be that he is Tobito and it was just a plot to unmask Kakashi. It lacks real motive.
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Post by Albireo on Dec 1, 2007 6:17:05 GMT -5
I thought Pain was leader.... but why're you guys doubting his peircings?
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) is alive. Only Pein and Konan (and possibly Zetsu, but probably not) know Darth Tobi is the leader of the Akatsuki.
