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Post by Knuckles on Nov 11, 2006 19:44:26 GMT -5
Edited. So i thought in the currently heated religious atmosphere (Muslim hating goin on near you?) i thought it would be interesting to get views on another major religion, which tends to go unnoticed at times. JWs tend to get a bad response from many people for their door-to-door evangelising, and even disliked cas they abstain from things like drugs, smoking, and especially the BLOOD TRANSFUSION issue. just to give a lil background info, JWs are Christians.. but (don't take this wrong people) but a far more pure version of the relgion than say for example.. catholics. JWs don't celebrate Christmas (actually a pagan festival called saturnalia), birthdays (another pagan festival) easter (pagan festival - although they DO celebrate the last supper, breakin bread and wine etc.. just differently), and dont celebrate a number of others. there's other stuff.. but i'll add that later anyways, i'll add that though i share JW beliefs, i don't consider myself one (because i would be a bad example of one), and i might make a few errors in what i say every now and again... so.. i'll try correct them when i spot em.. so anyways.. what do people think of JWs? i figure this might get a nice discussion going..
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Post by Drayconis on Nov 12, 2006 0:36:06 GMT -5
yes, we do get a lot of bad responses from people no? As for why, dunno, maybe people just dont wanna listen to us. When? your drunk I'll let it slide.
(If you didnt pick it up, I am a JW.)
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Post by Knuckles on Nov 12, 2006 7:01:29 GMT -5
lmao^ dude i totally understand. i *was* one too.. and would still be, but it's kinda a long story and my fault so i won't get into it...
but i wanna get people's opinions, cas i really don't get why *some* people respond soo badly to JWs...
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Post by Sonic on Nov 13, 2006 10:57:13 GMT -5
I'm perfectly fine with em to tell you the truth, but the whole door to door evangelising does get a bit frustrating... lol
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Post by Nightmare on Nov 13, 2006 12:33:46 GMT -5
I got no problem with anyone of any religion, so long as they leave me alone. XD I'm sure people think they're doing good by going door to door, or approaching you at the college, or something like that trying to convert you, but if I wanted a new religion, I'd find them. So I got nothing against Jehovah's Witnesses, it just annoys the hell out of me when they try to preach their religion to me. It'd be the same with any other religion.
As for my religion, I don't really know or care. I'll just stick to worshiping that chalk drawing I made that my sister made a myspace page for till I figure it out. XD
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Post by Knuckles on Nov 13, 2006 13:03:12 GMT -5
Fair enough.. but do you not agree, that if you have something that (in order to not offend anyone) you see as potentially life or death, and you can help others in that respect, you should AT LEAST try. i mean, if people arent interested, they get left alone. JW congregations list the houses that arent interested, and dont visit them again...
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Post by RELLIK on Nov 13, 2006 17:20:53 GMT -5
religion is just an excuse. most people beleive in cause they cant beleive i themselves. they always say "well help. well better you. etc" its sad really. more people die from religion than viruses, car crash, etc. i had a jw drop off a pamphlet "the end of false relidion is near" how f#cking retarded would you have to be to leave that at somebodies door. and i think theyll stop by later. the real answer is you are who you chose to be. go do whatever but atleast be yourself.
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Post by Paranoid on Nov 13, 2006 17:30:05 GMT -5
religion is all lies, I never got a JW, but i saw that same pamphlet around my house, so i guess someone did come? Yea, I dont want anyone preaching their lies to me, like i dont really care. And if people really belived in these deities, they wouldnt convert so easily. They wouldnt just say "I dont like the budah any more, I'm turning to god". They are all full of crap. I hate all religion, so yea, I dont like JW either. Like dont come preaching to me, I dont want to hear it!
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Post by Captain SpExtacular on Nov 13, 2006 18:54:24 GMT -5
Are the JWs the ones that run around saying the world is ending?...Im inocent dont kill me! Just wandering if im right or not. If so wudever, belive what you want. The only time i have a problem w/ a religion is when they either try and kill me or convert me XD. The other problem i have w/ religion is mainly a question i have, what could you do that is so incredibly bad or wrong that you deserve to be burned and tortured in hell for the rest of your existance? Cause after you die can you die again? Or dose sombody come down eventually and say "Say your sorry and ill let you come back up with me." See my problem? O well in the words of Marilyn Manson "Im not a slave to a god." So i accept what ever happens to me cause i really dont care, I lived and thats all taht matters. Personally id rather just die and have nothing happen to me, asside from coming back from the dead or somthing cool like that.
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Post by Drayconis on Nov 13, 2006 19:38:17 GMT -5
we Jw's actually dont believe in hell. And we believe Earth will be restorred to a paradise and those who serve Jehovah will live there forever.
However I (we) dont go around mocking peoples relegions. We just believe that what we beleieve is right, and even if we think your wrong we dont go "you suc! HAXXORZ!" And its not the world that's ending, just this system of things... heh.
But i can understand that people dont want us in your face, like Knuckles said, tell the Jw's that come around and we wont bother you. We try to be respectful of people.
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Post by swimstud600 on Nov 13, 2006 21:06:38 GMT -5
I don't actually know that much about JWs so I can't say I have a problem with them. I can respect differences in opinion though, I like what Spex said. I'm fine so long as they don't try and kill me or convert me. Personally I don't agree with the church when they say to go convert people, show them the way and all that. It always seems to do more harm than good. I say let them believe what they want and if it turns out when they die, they believed in the wrong one, too bad for them. People shouldn't pass judgement, whatever god you believe in will take care of that.
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Post by Nightmare on Nov 13, 2006 22:25:46 GMT -5
I say any good God will treat you right so long as you live life as a good person.
I mean, does it make sence to send a guy who was nice to everyone and was a helpful part of the community to hell cause he didn't believe in God?
Or to let someone into heaven that was a royal asshole and wronged other people just cause he showed up at church every sunday?
If I were God, I wouldn't care if I was worshiped or any of that crap, so long as you were good, I'd let ya in heaven.
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Post by swimstud600 on Nov 14, 2006 7:49:28 GMT -5
I'd agree with all that, all I'm saying is the choice isn't ours and when we press our religion upon others it tends to cause problems.
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Post by RELLIK on Nov 14, 2006 9:03:26 GMT -5
yeh like parents taking their 4 year old to church n brainwashing them. (my aunt n uncle tried this on me) the bible(s) etc. are all full of oxymorons. so then you realise you just do what you want.
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Post by Sonic on Nov 14, 2006 12:12:18 GMT -5
I say any good God will treat you right so long as you live life as a good person. I mean, does it make sence to send a guy who was nice to everyone and was a helpful part of the community to hell cause he didn't believe in God? Or to let someone into heaven that was a royal asshole and wronged other people just cause he showed up at church every sunday? If I were God, I wouldn't care if I was worshiped or any of that crap, so long as you were good, I'd let ya in heaven. I totally agree with that. Omg!! I'm agreeing with Nightmare?! The world must be ending! XD!
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