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Post by Paranoid on Aug 30, 2008 19:33:11 GMT -5
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Post by Sorrum on Aug 30, 2008 19:56:12 GMT -5
So they're trying to find what happened the nano-second after the Big Bang happened, at the very unlikely possible cost of the Earth getting torn apart by a black hole?
Someone build a time machine already. D:
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Post by Paranoid on Aug 30, 2008 20:09:36 GMT -5
December 22, 2012 is only four years away, so this could be the end of the world.
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Post by Nightmare on Aug 30, 2008 20:39:47 GMT -5
1. Creating a black hole that will rip the planet apart really is absurd.
2. I didn't see anything about December 22nd 2012 in there. What relevence does that have to any of this?
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Post by Paranoid on Aug 30, 2008 21:13:23 GMT -5
That's the day the world will end. And it's not entirely absurd. If their existence in the universe is true, then the creation of one mustn't be that far fetched.
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Post by Nightmare on Aug 30, 2008 22:50:40 GMT -5
Who said the world will end on December 22nd 2012? The same guy who said it'd end on January first 2000? >.>;;
And their creation is pretty farfeched considering I honestly don't think anything we humans have at our disposal nowdays could even come close to the power of a Black Hole. Even this amazing machine.
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Post by Professor Fann on Aug 31, 2008 2:14:10 GMT -5
Indeed.
It requires for stars to finish burning their entire hydrogen mass, which takes millions of years, and go along the path of immense mass densing to become the infamous black holes we know. I officially diss that so-called black hole claim of any party here.
Plus, its for research and trying to get the deeper scientific answers to the origin of life. I support. Though ... I don't eally see any thing about CERN's violation of 'right to life'.
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Post by Reaver on Aug 31, 2008 16:06:41 GMT -5
Apocalyptic predictions
2012 is sometimes claimed to be a great year of spiritual transformation (or apocalypse). Many esoteric sources interpret the completion of the twelfth B'ak'tun cycle in the Long Count of the Maya calendar (which occurs on December 21 by the most widely held correlation) to mean there will be a major change in world order.
Accordingly, several eclectic authors claim that a major, world-changing event will take place in 2012:
* The 1995 book The Mayan Prophecies linked the Maya calendar with long-period sunspot cycles. * The book 2012: Mayan Year of Destiny claims the Maya may have been instructed in their wisdom by discarnate entities from Orion and the Pleiades. Contact was maintained through shamanic rituals conducted in accordance with the movements of planets and stars. * The 1997 book The Bible Code claims that, according to certain algorithms of the Bible code, a meteor, asteroid or comet will collide with the Earth. * The book The Nostradamus Code speaks of a series of natural disasters caused by a comet (possibly as above) which will allow the third Antichrist to disperse his troops around the globe under the guise of aid in preparation for a possible nuclear war, although in the strictest sense it is unspecific as to nuclear war or some other natural or man caused destruction. * The book The Orion Prophecy claims that the Earth's magnetic field will reverse. * The 2005 book Beyond 2012: Catastrophe or Ecstasy by Geoff Stray reviews several theories, prophecies and predictions concerning 2012 and finds where authors have used faulty information or have bent the truth to fit their theories. * The 2006 book 2012: The Return of Quetzalcoatl by Daniel Pinchbeck discusses theories of a possible global awakening to psychic connection by the year 2012, creating a noosphere.
Other prophecies and apocalyptic writings and hypotheses for this year include:
* Terence McKenna's mathematical novelty theory suggests a point of singularity in which a great number of things could happen, including "hyperspatial breakthrough", planetesimal impact, alien contact, historical metamorphosis, metamorphosis of natural law, solar explosion, quasar ignition at the galactic core, or nothing. * The Prophecy of the Popes, attributed to Saint Malachy, speculated that Pope Benedict XVI would reign during the beginning of the tribulation of which Jesus spoke, and sometime later a future pope described in the prophecy as "Peter the Roman", the last in this prophetic list, would appear, bringing as a result the destruction of the city of Rome and the Last Judgment. * Many new age spiritualists and philosophers ("new-agers") believe humankind will enter an age of enlightenment in 2012. There are a range of varying, generally positive, beliefs shared by a subset of spiritualists from the mundane to exceptional — including a positive social shift and age of peace, mankind becoming psychic and connected by a collective, and/or an evolution of the human race into non-corporeal beings made of "spiritual" energy, or light energy, i.e. 'ascension'. * Some alien-enthusiasts, along with some new-agers, believe 2012 to correspond approximately with the return of alien "watchers" or "caretakers" who might have helped the first human civilizations with developing their technology and may have been waiting for us to reach a higher level of technological and/or social advancement. Beliefs range from the extra-terrestrials having benevolent purposes — such as to help human society evolve — to malevolent purposes — such as enslavement of mankind and/or manipulation.[citation needed] * The Nepalese ascetic Ram Bahadur Bomjon, the so-called "Buddha boy", reportedly told his followers that he would return around 2012. * Some proponents of a peak oil catastrophe place major events in 2012. Richard C. Duncan's book The Peak of World Oil Production and the Road To The Olduvai Gorge claims that the Olduvai cliff will begin and permanent blackouts will occur worldwide. Several studies predict a peak in oil production in or around 2012.
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Post by Ztrl on Aug 31, 2008 19:30:40 GMT -5
I'll explain this as simple as possible for those slow enough to believe this.
Picture this:
There is one man in an ancient Mayan city, whose only job, is to bang away with hammer and a chizel, and create these extremely elaborate calendars using symbols and pictures. You bang away at it for God knows how long, until one day, you decide that 1,000 years is far enough into the future for you to make a calendar. End of course, you're sick and tired of doing it, it's hard work.
And that is why the Mayan calendar ends in the year 2012.
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Post by Professor Fann on Sept 1, 2008 1:05:52 GMT -5
Right .... either way, a man made black hole is impossible.
Man simply doesn't have the willpower or even effort to make one.
Personally, I'd believe that the world's evils would evaporate by 2012 and usher in an era of peace and love. Other predictions are either mirroring this in a metaphoric way, or are nonsense - like the alien theory.
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Post by Goku Goku Gadget Saiyan on Sept 1, 2008 1:11:58 GMT -5
Right .... either way, a man made black hole is impossible. Man simply doesn't have the willpower or even effort to make one. Personally, I'd believe that the world's evils would evaporate by 2012 and usher in an era of peace and love. Other predictions are either mirroring this in a metaphoric way, or are nonsense - like the alien theory. Well no, man-made black holes are certainly possible. So is recreating the Big Bang. The solution to do so is to smash some protons together really, really f**king hard. Ta-dah, thats what the Large Hadron Collider is for! It can also apparently cause time travel.
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Post by Professor Fann on Sept 1, 2008 1:23:14 GMT -5
Eh ... no time travel. Piercing a wormhole in the current 3rd dimension past time passages is an answer, but can never be done, even if our sciences keep on growing.
So let's see the beginning ... title is "End of the world sooner than we think". Firstly, WHEN do you think the world was going to end, rather than SOONER?
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Post by Reaver on Sept 1, 2008 1:30:12 GMT -5
If it wasn't going to end sooner it was going to end later, duh... I'd imagine somewhere between the years 5000 and 8000. And by End of the world I mean total destruction, as in not even the planet survives... Well thats just my guess..
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Post by Nicktendonick on Sept 3, 2008 10:51:38 GMT -5
actually, even if we kill ourselves, Earth still has it's fate marked by our sun. Once it starts expanding in a couple of million or billion of years, the third rock from it is gonna get consumed by it (before the sun explodes)
Anyway, I really hope that atomsmasher doesn't bring the end to the world. It's a week away and my birthday is 10 days after it begins.
Although, in my opinion for what's gonna happen on 2012? This is it
The s***'s gonna hit the fan
(and it's vauge enough stay true too ^_^)
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Post by Albireo on Sept 6, 2008 4:37:28 GMT -5
* Many new age spiritualists and philosophers ("new-agers") believe humankind will enter an age of enlightenment in 2012. There are a range of varying, generally positive, beliefs shared by a subset of spiritualists from the mundane to exceptional — including a positive social shift and age of peace, mankind becoming psychic and connected by a collective, and/or an evolution of the human race into non-corporeal beings made of "spiritual" energy, or light energy, i.e. 'ascension'. THAT... would be awesome...
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