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Bush
Oct 30, 2006 12:19:48 GMT -5
Post by Knuckles on Oct 30, 2006 12:19:48 GMT -5
bin waiting for a chance to post this... what are your thoughts people?
PERSONALLY, i think he's one of the US's worst presidents, and it was ridiculous that he was let in at all (what with the votes going "missing" and the whole seeing how bad he was in his first term), but that's my opinion.
anyone up to try change it?
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Bush
Oct 30, 2006 13:12:20 GMT -5
Post by RELLIK on Oct 30, 2006 13:12:20 GMT -5
imo hes an @$$ as a president and a greedy mofo as a president.
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Bush
Oct 30, 2006 15:51:22 GMT -5
Post by swimstud600 on Oct 30, 2006 15:51:22 GMT -5
My vote goes both ways, he's got good qualities but he's done a lot of f**ked up stuff and really put the hurt on the U.S. economicaly.
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Bush
Oct 30, 2006 16:00:43 GMT -5
Post by Paranoid on Oct 30, 2006 16:00:43 GMT -5
the whole messwed up votes were in florida, where his brother was in charge.
yea, but republican = conservative...consevative = greedy mofo...so you can expect that
I cant say, im a Canadian, I guess americans like having trillions of their tax money waste, right, and soldiers can die while u waste it XD
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Bush
Oct 31, 2006 8:58:12 GMT -5
Post by K.O. on Oct 31, 2006 8:58:12 GMT -5
But is it all his fault?
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Bush
Oct 31, 2006 9:33:15 GMT -5
Post by Nicktendonick on Oct 31, 2006 9:33:15 GMT -5
Honestly, I don't know about the election thing. As for all the problems in the coutnty? No. hell, if you look at it, A massive amount of the media is against Bush. Seriously, take a note of the Anti-bush stuff on news channels. (minus fox news, they seem to be the cloesting to non-biased I can actually find. I really don't think he's a good president, nor a bad one. I think he's been doing as good of a job as he can with fighting Terrorism (minus the southern boarders, which no poltician has delt with, republican or democratric). Aside from that, he's so-so. And also doing bad with the Gas situation. Which is why I'm not voting in this poll. He's not a great president, nor his he a bad president. I'd say the middle. And definitly not the worst either. I beleive the worst might be the I don't like many of the stances he's taken, but aside from that; I think he's done a good job securing the country. I don't like President Bush, but I don't like what I see from democrats either. Personally I wish there was a better canadiate (from both parties), but I've only seen a few from both sides, and I wish at least one of them would run. Cause I don't like who might possiblily run for the next election currently. *Edit. Opps, made a mistake in something that I said. It's fixed
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Bush
Oct 31, 2006 16:39:04 GMT -5
Post by Knuckles on Oct 31, 2006 16:39:04 GMT -5
PERSONALLY i would prefer someone with above the intelligence level of a monkey running my country.. even if he isnt totally in favour and support of all my views... and someone who didn't (apparently) cheat/get in through underhandedness. one who isnt so war hungry would be nice too..
but that's me.. i guess i can't say much cas we have Blair over here, with his head so far up Bush's *** that he chews Bush's food after Bush eats it
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Bush
Oct 31, 2006 16:50:42 GMT -5
Post by Nicktendonick on Oct 31, 2006 16:50:42 GMT -5
I know nothing about Blair, thus there really isn't anything I can say.
Personally, I have a feeling he isn't an idiot. You may think he's dumb, but he's much smarter then he comes off.
I've been know to do that exact same thing. seem like an idiot, but in fact I'm not really.
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Bush
Oct 31, 2006 17:05:07 GMT -5
Post by K.O. on Oct 31, 2006 17:05:07 GMT -5
Yeah, many people "misunderestimate" Bush's intelligence.
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Bush
Oct 31, 2006 17:40:35 GMT -5
Post by Paranoid on Oct 31, 2006 17:40:35 GMT -5
hell, if you look at it, A massive amount of the media is against Bush. Seriously, take a note of the Anti-bush stuff on news channels. (minus fox news, they seem to be the cloesting to non-biased I can actually find. no, fox is just biased towards bush, thats all, they are still biased. I thank almost all news is biased in one way or another though
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Bush
Nov 1, 2006 11:02:05 GMT -5
Post by Captain SpExtacular on Nov 1, 2006 11:02:05 GMT -5
Ok well heres my take on the whole thing.
He may not be good with speeches and talking ill say that, however he is not stupid, he did infact get better grades in school than Jhon Kerry. He has made a few bad decisions, but what president hasn'? Clinton had the perfect oprotunity to cach osama, but was to busy waching a football game to do anything. And if you think hes a bad leader then how did he lead the U.S. to where we are right now? He must have been doing somthing right. Ya know what i dont get though? After 9/11 we all came together as one nation, and decided to go against terroism, but now we are drifting into two.
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Bush
Nov 1, 2006 11:15:48 GMT -5
Post by Knuckles on Nov 1, 2006 11:15:48 GMT -5
^on the 9/11 tip.. i know it's touchy.. but didnt bush know about it beforehand? or know SOMETHING was gonna happen? great president ..
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Bush
Nov 1, 2006 13:33:32 GMT -5
Post by Nightmare on Nov 1, 2006 13:33:32 GMT -5
Persident Bush was not aware of the 9/11 attack beforehand. The Clinton administration did, but he chose not too strike, and then this gets dumped on the new president. Grand...
Personally, I think Bush is a great president, one of the best (not THE best, but one of em) presidents the US has ever seen. Everyone blames Bush for the gas prices, and the deaths in Iraq, and everything else wrong with their lives, but what people don't realize is... WE'RE AT F**KING WAR, MORONS!! You can't blame George Bush for everything that's inconvinient because of the war, because if any other president was in office, the same thing would be happening, cause we're at war.
And don't say "Just take our troops out and the war will end." cause that's not true. That just means that our chances of getting owned in the longrun greatly increase.
Everyone talks about George Bush like he's some kind of retard, but I don't get that. As SpEX said, he DID get better grades than the "Intellectual" John Kerry (who is a traitor, by the way.) I trust the President to make the right decisions.
George Bush handled 9/11 and the war great, in my own opinion. Personally, I haven't heard a democrat come up with a single better way to handle things than George Bush. All the democrats do now days is complain and say bad things about people. >.>;
Now, to answer the question. Yes, I think George Bush is a great leader. Obviously the American people think so too, since he was re-elected.
And don't say the votes were rigged, cause then you'd be retarded. >.>;
(On a side note, Fox News is the only news station I watch since it is unbiased.)
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Bush
Nov 1, 2006 15:42:17 GMT -5
Post by Knuckles on Nov 1, 2006 15:42:17 GMT -5
before i start (and dont take this the wrong way man)... This Sub-Board is for maturely discussing contreversial topics. Therefore, it requires stricter rules. Read over all the rules carefully before posting in this board. - No Flaming. Flaming is offending / fighting other people. I expect disagreement within this board, but for Gods Sake, keep it civil. People caught fighting or needlessly flaming others will be punished.
- No using strong language. I understand getting worked up in a heated debate, but children visit these boards, and a mature person knows how to control his/her temper.
(i removed the irrelevant - for this post - issues btw, so im not mis quoting) so chill a little.. anyways.. onto the reply i call that a contradiction even if you don't.. if clinton administration did.. surely the bush administration would too.. but i might be wrong so very true you can't blame him for everything.. i just blame him for his part. and the second part, 99% agreement. pulling out in one move isnt the answer, it WILL take time.. but it does NEED to be done, as it has reached the point where it isnt helping. however Iraq is NEVER going to be able to "own" the US... sorry, but to me thats just you being (for lack of a better word) "brainwashed" by the media. Iraq, and i'd say pretty much every other nation on earth, bar MAYBE China.. would get owned by the US if they tried OPEN WAR.. however as the US is "trying" to keep civilian casualties to a minimum, and it isnt war between Iraq and the US (just the terrorists and the US - and UK etc), they're holding back. Let's face it, if he wanted, Bush could blow the crap outa the entire country in one day and be done with it all. remind me how he's a traitor in again.. did he do something crazy like.. oh say, fund a dictator for a previous war, who has now turned on him? or do something illegal.. like start an illegal war? or do something that directly is against america? cas i didn't see anything... oh and on the "intellectual" thing.. grades don't mean everything. i know people who get all A* grades in school/college exams, and they are still retards. questionable.. since it was decided (i might be thinking of the 1st election though :S) by one state.. which his BROTHER was govenor of.. and the states which voted for him.. oh.. all but 1 had lower IQs than the states that voted against... just one point.. meh.. guess i am a retard then.. with my high grades (minimum being A's), high IQ (enough for mensa), OBJECTIVE opinion (i'm lookin at this from the outside), lack of malcoordination (i am a sportsman and atthelete ) etc... guess the definition changed to being someone who doesn't hold a certain opinion.. or maybe to someone who refuses to use capitals to start sentences online... actually it's probs cas i'm arguing over the internet but seriously man.. uncalled for flaming man.. and that's your opinion, not mine... from what i can see, in terms of PROVEN FACTS, is that he is a bad president. basing a theory on "Kerry couldn't have done better" kinda things, and "americans seem to think he's good because he's still in" kinda reasoning doesnt really hold as strong evidence to me. i mean.. EVERYONE thought the world was round for centuuries.. they were wrong.. maybe america is too? or maybe i am... i just doubt the ability of someone who didnt LEGALLY (As far as evidence shows me - please PROVE me otherwise with FACTS ONLY if possible) get into power, and who ILLEGALLY start's a war... anyways.. thanks for the opinions.. keep em coming, good to here from like and especially UNlikeminded peoples
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Bush
Nov 1, 2006 16:49:30 GMT -5
Post by swimstud600 on Nov 1, 2006 16:49:30 GMT -5
I really like what Nick said, that was about as close to my feelings as I can get. Good points and bad points for Bush. I think we're much safer with him in charge, that is his biggest priority. But we are also hurting money-wise. Lots of people losing their jobs, gas is partly because of the war but also because we are simply running out. Its a non renuable resource and as we take more and more, the price is gonna go up. I hate it too but its something you just have to live with. Personally, I can't go either way, like him or hate him. But I do think he gets more criticism than is deserved, the democrats like to slam him at every opportunity but they never offer a better solution to the problem. They just point fingers and are secretly happy they aren't in his position. Most of the time its a no win situation and he's doing the best he can. As far as Bush vs Kerry's grades, that is news to me. Personally I have never liked Kerry but to think that Bush got better grades, now thats something. But I also agree with what Alter said. My brother is very smart academically but at home, he's dumb as a rock, I can't believe how retarded he can be. As for Blair, I can understand Alter's feelings. I know nothing about Blair or how the people in his country feel but I'd imagine they are like us right now, torn in two and at each other's throats. And I can see where he'd want a leader that leads, not just playing second fiddle to the US. I actually wouldn't mind if another nation sholdered the burden for once, I hope that is the case with the N Korea thing cuz we are spread too thin economically and militarilly. Thats all I've got for now, I'm still in the middle. And I need to agree one more time with Nick, both sides for the 06 election currently suck.
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