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Post by Nightmare on May 30, 2007 2:20:49 GMT -5
If Dr.Wily causing the chain of events that led to all kinds of horrible death makes him the most evil, then I think the real most evil villan should be Dr.Light's granny. Since Dr.Wily would have never had access to the technology to start his evil plans if not for Dr.Light.
Since we all know that Dr.Light was far from evil, we can assume that blaming all the evil on the root isn't the correct approach to determining the most evil. Sorry Para, but I gotta disagree with you. =/
Honestly, I think that Dr.Wily would go mad (madder <__<) with remorse if he knew that his actions led to the horror caused by Sigma and later, Wiel.
Who do I think is the most evil? Juno, from MegaMan Legends. He was brilliant, powerful, and planned to eradicate an exceptionally high number of humans without a second thought, simply because he thought it would be easier to control the population with less people. Sure, he wasn't crazy like Wily, Sigma, or Wiel, but he was most definately evil. o.o;
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Post by Professor Fann on May 31, 2007 13:52:50 GMT -5
Oh, a wonderful thought!
Something new ... yes, I definitely see it. A mindless entity bent on human eradication (well, at least for Kattelox Island) and he wouldn't give up. Even a lack of conscious or thought.
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Post by viruszero on Jun 3, 2007 13:50:00 GMT -5
One island, one time? nah, not that evil considering Sigma's tried 8 times and he did manage to drop a space station onto Earth so that has to count for something.
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Post by Nightmare on Jun 3, 2007 16:24:36 GMT -5
It wasn't the amount of times Juno tried that made him evil. It was the manner in which he did it.
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Post by Professor Fann on Jun 6, 2007 0:09:48 GMT -5
And he was definitely merciless and stubborn.
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Post by Jadax on Jun 6, 2007 19:12:35 GMT -5
but in a way isnt Willy and Wiel the same azzact thin(and yes i cant spell)
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Post by Professor Fann on Jun 7, 2007 23:57:27 GMT -5
Same kind of evil but different motives, different people. Simple and clear as that.
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Post by Jadax on Jun 11, 2007 3:03:08 GMT -5
Hate to break it to you but they are all the same thing, capcom just gets money for the same ideas for the new games like ZX, its basiclly MMZ and new toons
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Post by Professor Fann on Jun 13, 2007 3:23:32 GMT -5
That is obvious.
But the purpose of the thread is to analyze the games in a rational real-life-like event resemblence. All games tend to mirror the real human world of virtues and incidences, direct or not. So the extend to which an evil is really evil is still essential in a debate.
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Post by memor on Jun 15, 2007 4:06:01 GMT -5
i think Lumine is the evilest, think about it, exactly what did she say to X, Zero or Axl about her plan, she was the one that lead the NGR's to rebel and unlock their ultimate power, to go Maverick at will, also she was cunning enough to trick Sigma and use him as a puppet, also what happened in the end to Axl, lets see, Bio-Metal A is going to be in ZX 2 but since the end of X8, Axl was in pain and the last thing you see is Lumine's eyes in Axl's meaning that Lumine or atleast some of her is inside Axl and if there is a Model A, half of it is Lumine
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Post by Andrew on Jun 15, 2007 14:57:29 GMT -5
Lumine was a guy. >.>
And I don't think they're going to include anything based upon Lumine in the Bio-Metal A. And besides, you don't know what happened after X8 other than what happens before MMZ and then MMZX.
And we probably never will. For all we know, nothing happens to Axl and the Hunters keep fighting on until the day everything gets shot to hell and then MMZ picks up.
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Post by Jadax on Jun 17, 2007 13:57:25 GMT -5
Ok Msia the fact was, its been there and its worked in every other game that Capcom has made brings back old characters. Like Resident Evil games, its basically Leon and Jill. Ok even Devil May Cry the bring back the same people. ITS ALL THE SAME FRICKEN THING!!!!
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Post by Nightmare on Jun 17, 2007 18:08:22 GMT -5
No, you don't get it.. We KNOW it's the same crap, but this thread isn't about what methods Capcom uses for developing villans, it's about which one of them is the most evil.
Now stop spamming, please. >.>;
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Post by viruszero on Jun 17, 2007 19:15:23 GMT -5
Devil may cry was supposed to be the next Resident evil game... But they felt it strayed too far from the series, so they renamed it, and made it into it's own game (And I for one am glad they did.) But Look at the villians in DMC, they are not the same. Starting with DMC3 (Cause its first in the story timeline) - Jester/Arkham wants Sparda's power and in the process Virgil gets trapped in hell. In DMC1, Mundus tries to take over earth and kill Dante because it was Sparda who sealed Mundus away. In DMC2, A corrupt business man wants to rule the world, so he tries to summon a demon to give him the power he needs.
Yes they all use the same theme "Take over the world" but then again pretty much every Hero vs Villian story uses it. (As one of my professors said "There is a finite number of completely different type of stories that can be written." So the differences come from the situations which occur within, the order and the circumstances around them. )
In this case, yes Megaman's villians are all roughly the same in goal, but I still argue Sigma is the most evil for the extent he has gone to, his ideas, plans, goals, ideology. Even Juno still doesn't quite live up to it, for juno seems more like an unthinking machine simply choosing extermination, much akin to a bomb, it just does what it is designed to. The evil from Sigma is his choice to do this, his free and knowing choice of all the consequences and still he proceedes.
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Post by harpuia on Jun 20, 2007 7:00:57 GMT -5
I would say wily is the most evil villian but then again at the end of BN6 he turns good.
So in my opinion the most evil crazy demented character of all time is....
....ciel?!? (evil seductive woman, i see u der)
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