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Post by Paranoid on Jan 30, 2007 21:56:41 GMT -5
I hereby add on another rule, as a Spriter. not as a staff member (cuz i ain't). If you happen to oh say, whine about having your sprite used in a Toy animate, without permission, stfu. Seriously. it's the Spritekill Thread. Anything goes there. We kill each other in sprite fights. Reaver didn't bitch when i swiped his avatar and fragged it. i never asked. He never whined So the next time I catch someone bitching that i stole their sprite, i will double pwn you. clear as crystal. (that goes double for Miguel, whom Tony says cheats at Cards) Well that is because Reaver takes it lightly and sees it as a joke, however some other people may not want you taking their sprites, no matter what it is for, even if it is as a joke.
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Post by t0y on Jan 30, 2007 22:29:20 GMT -5
Here's a thought. If it's between ZVers, For use in ZV it shouldn't matter. I mean, it's data. It's data anybody could re-create if they took time.
Sprite "theft" like i did today is just another way of saying "Dude, you're gonna get pwned, but it's all in fun, so calm the hell down and stop trying to get me banned."
**Puts down $20 saying Miguel gets his ass kicked**
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Post by Elusis on Jan 31, 2007 3:13:36 GMT -5
I hereby add on another rule, as a Spriter. not as a staff member (cuz i ain't). If you happen to oh say, whine about having your sprite used in a Toy animate, without permission, stfu. Seriously. it's the Spritekill Thread. Anything goes there. We kill each other in sprite fights. Reaver didn't bitch when i swiped his avatar and fragged it. i never asked. He never whined So the next time I catch someone bitching that i stole their sprite, i will double pwn you. clear as crystal. (that goes double for Miguel, whom Tony says cheats at Cards) No. It really depends on who the person is. Me personally, I wouldn't want people to just mess with my sprites at random. You need my permission, but that's just me. It also depends on who it is, when Reaver made that "hanging by the balls" thing, I was fine with that cause Reaver's cool and all. But if it was someone like say... Miguel, I'd go "F**k you.". >.>;; PRAISE JEASUS!!! MIGUEL REPORTED US!!!! AAAAAAND HIS AVATAR IS A RECOLOR THAT I MADEYour point? Its a damn recolor. >.>;;
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Post by Nightmare on Jan 31, 2007 4:31:37 GMT -5
Stop arguing like children. I already took care of this problem.
And unless you wanna taste The Fire Elusis, you'd best stop mocking recolors. >.>
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Post by Reaver on Jan 31, 2007 6:15:42 GMT -5
Well no one gets mad and goes blame Xero or nmmz being thieves for their bravuras either.. =P
How is it thieving when you openly say that "hay I'm gonna borrow this for a bit!"
Wouldn't staling be more like "- - -" and "Ok now I'm gonna edit this and no one will know it's stolen! Man I'm so good..."
For stupid.. it's stealing when it's intended
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Post by Elusis on Jan 31, 2007 6:46:00 GMT -5
Maybe I don't want people using my sprite without my permission? Which is the basis of sprite theft. Permission.
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Post by t0y on Jan 31, 2007 9:19:55 GMT -5
Ok then. I suggest we make a new thread for the rules of SpriteKill. All those who agree to the terms of such a fun event quote this in your signature or add a signature here
I hereby allow the Spritekill Guys to humorously Maim and Dismember me for the sake of good fun and rage venting. Should I Whine, I shall be Double PWNed.
How's that?
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Post by swimstud600 on Jan 31, 2007 15:50:47 GMT -5
I don't see how this is even an issue. Nightmare himself has made more animations of him lighting people on fire than I can count.
As members of the ZV community, I feel we are close enough that we can joke around with each other. For instance, Elusis did something jokingly to Reaver and Reaver hung him from the balls in a sprite. Thats humor. And instead of taking it personally, Elusis laughed at it. Because he's got a sense of humor. I don't care if the joke is on me so long as its funny. Indeed, it is the right, and duty as a member of Zero Virus that we play harmless jokes and harass the other members in fun. I pick on Nightmare constantly but he knows its all in fun. Tony beats Frozt with a stick any time he sees him. And these are the things that make ZV, ZV. So instead of whining, laugh it off and get on with it.
In the case of Miguel's sprites being 'stolen' sprite theft is claiming the sprite as your own. The animations that were made did not claim rights to his character. They were not posted on other sites. Its harmless, ZV fun. And in the case of Model making one especially, if he indeed made Miguel's sprite I'd say he has every right to use it in an animation. In the case of everyone else, its not hard to take a MMZ sheet and recolor it, I could have Miguel's sheet in 5 minutes or less if I really wanted it.
There were no sprites stolen, everyone continue making Zero Virus a fun place. Common, who doesn't want to see Nighty light Vilex on fire again?
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Post by Reaver on Jan 31, 2007 16:13:50 GMT -5
You said everything I did in more words... o.o
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Post by Miguel on Jan 31, 2007 16:29:53 GMT -5
Swim, I just have a problem with people taking my sprite and going mad with it. Recolour or not, Miguel was the very first time I went into MS paint and the first time I did anything to a sprite. It took me hours to make as even though I knew what to do thanks to a recoloring guide on B&G, I found it very hard to make. I didn't know how to shrink a sprite after using stretch/skew, and it took me a few weeks to realize I could shrink it back if I just enlarge it with the magnifiying glass instead. That sprite was extremley important to me and When I saw model and t0y use it without permission (sprite theft is no different than any other form of theft. if you use it without permission, it's theft.), I just felt so enraged by it, I was ready to just reach through that computer moniter, grab model and t0y by the throats, then force them to make out on a public webcam (with tounge). My point is, that joking or not, I DEMAND that people first obtain permission from me before using the Miguel sprite (+ swim, you couldn't do my sheet in under 5 minutes because I only have two poses. You don't kmow the color of my saber.)
And to t0y, recolors have rights to. Especially if they had great sentimental value to the creator.
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Post by Nightmare on Jan 31, 2007 17:05:47 GMT -5
Yes, I agree with Swim 100%
Regardless of all that's been said, there's no reason to cry sprite theft if a freind is using your sprite for something (even if it is killing you), no I already asked Model O and Toy not to use your sprite anymore since you're not okay with it, so everyone stop bickering.
Whine all you want everyone, but I'm not banning Toy and Model O for this, and I'm not making something that should be mutually understood among friends a rule. >.>;
Now don't make me lock this thread. Please find a way to carry on with your lives.
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Post by Miguel on Jan 31, 2007 17:29:09 GMT -5
okay Nightmare, one thing you keep saying just bugs me, model uses me for a flaming post and I don't really know Toy. All I know about him is that he worships this weiered god and is pretty damn good at edits in 16 bit. So why do you keep saying that they were just joking as friends of mine? (I know they were play flaming, or trying to light a fish underwater on fire, as in just joking and not trying to envoke hostility, which I do all the time, but still. I feel disturbed when people use my work at all w/out permission.)
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Post by Elusis on Feb 1, 2007 3:10:22 GMT -5
Okay there's alot of stuff and I don't wanna read it. But anyways.
Lets say a sprite is used in the Killing Sprites thread. If someone requests they remove his or her sprite, it shall be done, kay?
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Post by Nightmare on Feb 1, 2007 5:12:13 GMT -5
okay Nightmare, one thing you keep saying just bugs me, model uses me for a flaming post and I don't really know Toy. All I know about him is that he worships this weiered god and is pretty damn good at edits in 16 bit. So why do you keep saying that they were just joking as friends of mine? (I know they were play flaming, or trying to light a fish underwater on fire, as in just joking and not trying to envoke hostility, which I do all the time, but still. I feel disturbed when people use my work at all w/out permission.) All members of Zero Virus are friends. If you want to be included in group activities, you gotta be willing to share your sprite. They weren't flaming you, it was all in good fun. Now I'm locking the thread now, because nobody gets it still. You wanna whine about people using your sprites, ask them not to use your sprites, don't report them for sprite theft when they were just playing with you. I'm not punishing anyone for any of this, unless someone wants to drag this on, then I'll be more than happy to punish them. <_<;; Besides, this thread isn't for whining about your definition of sprite theft, it's about me deciding to kill people for taking part in my definition of sprite theft, which is taking other peoples sprites then either using them after they've been asked not to, or editing/using them and claiming them as their own work. Problem solved, end of story, everyone shut the hell up. >.>;
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