Smash Bros. Wii U

[Renegade]

Changing the pace of this. I posted this elsewhere when the videos came out. So here is what I believe to be Megaman's moveset and possible gamestyle/combos/etc.

Standing Neutral A: pew pew pew lemons(You can shoot 3 at most at a time, it seems to lock down a character for long enough to get hit by the other shots)

Standing Forward A: also lemons pew pew(I only think this because you can move and shoot at the same time so he may not have a forward tilt attack)

Down A: Slide(This looks like it can be combo'd from the Standing Neutral but would had to be done fairly quick or have sweet spots. Think Ganondorf from Brawl his Forward B and then Down A)

Dash A: Spinny spinny spin spin top man(Seems sort of like Kirby's spin attack from Brawl)

Standing Up A: Uppercut(This looks fairly strong and has good knock back but it looks extremely unsafe like Luigi's Up B)

Jump Back A: Slash Claw (This seems like it will act like Metaknight's triple attack in the air, also seen in the fight video, he turns around quickly and does it)

Jump Neutral A: pew pew lemons! (I think this will be more of an interrupt attack more then anything else)

Jump Forward A: Flame Sword (From what I've seen this has incredible priority(at least over mario) and will probably be used frequently if caught in an air battle, it seems like an overall good move)

Jump Down A: Hard Knuckle (This crap spikes/meteors! It is also a ranged spike which could be used quite well in edge games, but also will leave you open for attacks if you miss this)

Jump Up A: Air Shooter (This is shown at the very end of the offscreen fight video, looks like another projectile with juggling possibilities)

Neutral B: Crash bomb (This works like the sticky bombs just like the video said, if you plan on playing keep away, this combined with Leaf Shield and Metal Blades will probably make a very annoying playstyle)

Forward B: Metal Blades (This looks like a really annoying attack and very spammable, you can throw it in to the ground and use it as an item, and shoot it. I believe if you use it as an item it will hit 3 times and if you shoot it, it will just hit once but have more knock back. As previously stated with the other ranged abilities this seems like a very annoying playstyle filled with dodging constantly to get in on Megaman. In theory you could shoot metal blades, and throw a metal blade, and use leaf shield)

Up B: Rush Coil (This looks like it works just like Sonic's Up B, amazing recovery and Rush will most likely stay on the ground for a while so you could use it there too for getaways)

Down B: Leaf Shield (I'm not sure if this will eat projectiles, or hits characters up close, could be used for rush down to keep a player in place and maybe get a smash in?)

Smash Forward: Charged Buster Shot (Seems like it comes out at a decent speed and is relatively big at biggest charge)

Smash Down: Flame Vents (This comes out quickly but has a long time where if you miss then you are probably gonna get hit for free, though the timing of hitting Megaman after it comes out might be the problem)

Smash Up: Spark (This seems sort of like Flame Vents but doesn't stay out nearly as long, it is probably a lot stronger and most likely has a sweet spot on the tips right above him, but I think Flame Vents will probably be the go to Smash for Megaman)

Forward B and Neutral B could be switched, but that is just my guess.

[Swim]

Just a small update, Nintendo has revealed that Captain Olimar and his Pikmin will be returning as a playable fighter.

www.smashbros.com/us/characters/pikmin.html

[Swim]

www.vg247.com/2013/07/25/super-smash-bros-3ds-and-wii-u-wont-contain-a-storyline-or-cutscenes/

Another small blurb, apparently the next Smash Bros game won't have any cutscenes or a story mode because “Unfortunately, the movie scenes we worked hard to create were uploaded onto the internet,” Sakurai said. “You can only truly wow a player the first time he sees . I felt if players saw the cutscenes outside of the game, they would no longer serve as rewards for playing the game, so I’ve decided against having them.”

Fighting games in general aren't really known for deep storylines, and Smash Bros is no exception. But I feel like this is more cutting corners in order to make the Wii-U and 3DS versions more similar. What is Nintendo's problem with putting stuff online anyway, its been proven that it acts more like free advertising than it does rob them of sales. And Smash Bros is the type of game where you're going to get it, or you won't, regardless of whether you've seen the cutscenes on youtube. I watched Brawl clips on youtube before getting the game, and that didn't diminish my enjoyment of the play through.

I guess I don't care if they don't want to do anything as big as the Subspace Emissary again, so long as they bring back the Melee style Adventure Mode.

[Ruinaru]

This was stated shortly after the reveal, I'm not sure why it's taken so long to gain steam.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: Subspace Emissary was not very good. It was okay the first time through, and the cutscenes were nice, but the story was mediocre and it lost all its charm after the first playthrough.

I know a lot of people are upset, but this is a game that's going to have to survive for probably the entirety of the new console generation, and I don't think they need to funnel so many resources into something that doesn't enhance the game in the long run.

They're gonna have fun little cutscenes for the newcomers, and hopefully they'll have a good few surprise ones scattered throughout the game, but not having a story mode like SSE is by no means a concern for me. I'm sure we'll get an Adventure mode like Melee's, and plenty of brand new modes to make up for it. Hopefully they'll have a bit more lasting appeal than SSE.

[Swim]

I updated the first post when Olimar and Luigi were added, but somehow I missed seeing Peach and Toon Link until today.

Jun 14, 2013 20:50:34 GMT -5 Nightmare said:

Toon Link is 50/50 really because he is kind of just a clone of Link, but Wind Waker is getting remade so they may keep Toon Link around because of that. Olimar could probably go, but he's getting popular with the Smash Community and Pikmin is getting a new game, so he may stay or be replaced with someone from the later Pikmin games.

Turns out this was a pretty good prediction. I personally thought that Toon Link would be excluded this go around, since at least Lucas/Wolf/Gannondorf are their own characters and Toon Link is just another version of Link, but since Wind Waker HD is a thing right now I guess that was reason enough to warrant his inclusion.

What do you suppose this says for the other 'clone' characters? Its a little early to tell if they've changed the moves for the respective Links to make them feel more differently than in Brawl, but as we've talked about, Link doesn't seem to be packing anything exclusive to Skyward Sword. In fact, after looking over Peach's file I'm starting to think that very little has changed since Brawl as far as move sets are concerned, most of it looks the same.

[Nightmare]

Just because this hasn't been acknowledged yet I feel like I need to make a post.



This is actually really surprising for me. I thought if anyone was sure to be cut, Sonic would be on that list right beside Snake. But apparently he's back for more. Can't say I'm disappointed, but I am surprised.


I'd really like to see a reveal of a new character soon though, or a new item, or a new stage or SOMETHING NEW. While it's nice to know who's coming back in the next Smash, we haven't gotten anything new in some time.

[Swim]

I didn't have access to the internet since around noon yesterday or I'd have posted the news myself. I'm also pleased to see Sonic return, and seemingly one of only a handful who expected him too. Its Snake that I'm not sure about, not that Sony has their own competing (albeit inferior) product to match Smash.

I think its worth noting that all of the most recent character reveals have happened alongside the release or announcement of a new game, so as to create hype and do some advertising at the same time. Olimar was revealed right before Pikmin 3 dropped. Toon Link came out alongside Wind Waker HD. And Sonic was released just as the newest Mario and Sonic Olympic games thing hit Youtube.
This has me wondering, what will they reveal in October with Pokemon X and Y?

Also with regard to Sonic, his moves don't appear to have changed since Brawl either. if that's the case, I hope they make him more mechanically user friendly, because Sonic can be difficult to control at the best of times and downright impossible with the lag of an online environment. I really hope they rework him, because it is a waste to bring him back if he's not fun to play, and I really think that's why he got such low use.

[Nightmare]

I'm not really expecting anyone's moves to change much. Pit was revamped a bit to accommodate his new game, which makes sense (especially his moveset was pretty groundless in Brawl since he hadn't had a game since the 80s.) Bowser seems to be getting a revamp as well, possibly because Nintendo needed to justify not cutting him (since he's overall a fairly unpopular character.)

Anyone else though I'm not expecting to see any changes really. I kind of hope they give Luigi a new Final Smash and they rework Ganondorf, but anyone else will probably just be subtle changes most likely.

[Vile]

I'd like to get some news on this as well. Odds are I'll be buying a Wii U for this game, because lets face it, you all know it won't be the same on a 3DS.

[Tony]

We got our fourth new character!

[Nightmare]

For a more helpful trailer.



Since I didn't actually get excited til I saw her play. Looks kind of like a cross between Olimar and the Ice Climbers.

Not what I expected but I'm not disappointed. Honestly I'm just happy to see a new character finally. All the updates since the initial reveal have been incredibly underwhelming.

[Swim]

Interesting. She seems to have a fighting style similar to the Ice Climbers, in that the player controls both characters. That said, I wonder if Luma can be summoned again if it is knocked off the stage, or if, like with Nana and Popo the secondary character stays KOed until the primary one respawns for a new stock. Rosalina in the video was seen using Luma to block a character from returning to the stage, so I wonder how risky that maneuver would be if it meant securing a kill. I wonder what this means for the Ice Climbers, if they're being replaced or if there are enough differences in play to keep both character duos.

As a side note, I hope this trailer means that Rainbow Road will be a playable stage for us to fight on.

[Nightmare]

It looks like she'll play less like the Ice Climbers and more similar to Olimar honestly. I kind of would describe it as somewhere in between. Because it doesn't seem like the Luma acts in tandem with her necessarily so much as a lot of her attacks revolve around giving commands to the Luma (which said moves may be viable attacks in their own right.)

We saw several different colored Luma in the trailer, as well as an instance of her summoning one (as seen at 1:30 in the video I posted) so I'm going to assume it's not like the Ice Climbers in the sense that a Luma getting KO's means it's gone til you respawn or that it'll really cause you any grief, but rather have it be more like Olimar's Pikmin, which were expendable. The different colored ones may even have different strengths or effects like the Pikmin.

[Ztrl]

This just gets better and better

[Ztrl]

So this is a thing