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Post by Captain SpExtacular on May 7, 2008 21:50:51 GMT -5
Personally no I do not believe in an afterlife, or a god for that matter. Norse/Viking Paganism has the most appealing system of belief with the different warrior halls like Valhalla where you go to train with other great warriors to fight in the battle that will end the world.
So my question is what is your idea of an afterlife, what do you do there, and what do you call it?
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Post by viruszero on May 7, 2008 23:05:44 GMT -5
I'm not entirely sure about the afterlife because really there is no way to test or prove/disprove it...
So my thoughts on it are that when we die, we simply cease to exist, what made our bodies up breaks down and returns to the earth while our minds simply cease working, any effect we would have on the earth stops and if we had any extra sensory or psionic capabilities/psychic energies, they would disperse across the world. Typically this means a complete death but in some cases of those who died violently/tragically (or what have you) and forged strong ties with an area leave a strong (and oft sensable) psychic or mental fragment. (Thus a Ghost. And religion isn't so much what cleanses them as it is the comfort and peace that the religion brings to either ones own mind which then affects the surroundings, or the ghost's mind allowing them to get past their trauma and disperse.)
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Post by swimstud600 on May 8, 2008 0:02:36 GMT -5
As Virus said, there is no way to test or prove it but I believe that once you die you either go to heaven or hell, based on the way you've lived your life here on Earth. And since I know this thread was spawned from the ghost one, I'm going to add that I don't believe that your spirit stays on earth or dwells near the place you died. I believe if there are spirits left on earth that they've been sent from heaven or hell to preform a task and are then required to return. And that's just my personal belief.
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Post by Paranoid on May 8, 2008 16:51:35 GMT -5
After my life I gonna sit in a coffin and rot in my grave while being eaten my maggots.
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Post by Nightmare on May 8, 2008 18:30:37 GMT -5
My thoughts on the Afterlife is more or less it doesn't actually exist, but it kinda does.
My best guess at an afterlife is when you die, you dream, as if you were asleep. Cept it's a neverending dream. If you die happy, then you have a good dream. Die not so happy, bad dream. Heaven. Hell.
That's my theory anyways. As previously stated, there's no way to test or prove it, so yeah.
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Post by Professor Fann on May 8, 2008 21:58:40 GMT -5
My thoughts are that the afterlife does exist. Otheriwse known as simply the spirit world.
One of the ways to experience the spirit world is during your dreams, where you get to go there yourself. One of the most vivid experiences I had was a brief meeting with Kim Il Sung.
I think the spirit world has a lot of places and is just as lifely as Earth would have been. So long as you have the heart pouring with love, you can basically do whatever you want there. Anything within the respected confines of goodness.
Most spirits go there after dying, but unfortunately, there's atachment to the living world, so spirits tend to linger around. Either that or they are lost and they cannot find the way to the other side.
It is true that the returning spirits are given a task to do something back on Earth for a special reason, but that usually requires a living human counterpart - and that in my opinion, is the reason why many people claim to have various different encounters.
And that's my view.
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Post by J.Y. on May 8, 2008 22:58:54 GMT -5
Part 2 of the Spirit Talk. Hmm, I can see some trace of this.
For me, i do believe in afterlife. And for that, i choose to bring in my theory of "the Law of Cause and Effect". No mather what you do in your present life, it will be reflected right back at you in your future life. Like a boomerang. If you kill someone with a car, it doesn't mean you'll die in a car accident. You may die from something else, but it's just relevant to your past wrong deed.
For example, let's say there's this guy with cancer whose life will end in 1 week. If you helped a guy plenty of times and sacrifised much for him before his death, when he dies, and after a long period of time, both of you will be reborn and he may be your father or into a girl of your dreams, and he will give you back what you had given to him in the pastlife. Vice versa as well. Murder a guy, and after that, that poor guy will be reborn and will have its revenge on you, either torturing you through thoughts or actions.
It's these kinds of stuff that sometimes bonds the most unusual people together. Look around you. The friends or relatives you have, good or bad. They COULD be someone you've known during your past life, and now they are reborn to have this bond with you. But of course, we won't remember about it at all, and who knows? You may love to bully others in school, maybe some day in this life or future lives of yours, you'll be bullied back.
And about the spirits, heaven and hell stuffs, it totally applies here as well. But not that specific. It's a very complicated theory to explain actually, but if you guys want to know more about it, tell me. I'll find the best way to explain it all to you.
And by that, "The Law of Cause and Effect".
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Post by Captain SpExtacular on May 8, 2008 23:06:20 GMT -5
So....Karma?
I like the principals of that. Do good things and good things will happen to you. But having those things come back and bite you in the ass once you die? Thats what I don't like. Whats worse is spending an eternity enduring punishment for it. And if you do get into some kind of heaven, wouldn't it be just as awful knowing some of your friends are being tortured for things they did in their life?
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Post by Professor Fann on May 9, 2008 0:20:45 GMT -5
I don't think there'd ever be such a thing called reincarnation. Dead people cannot be born again. The most you can say is that certain people look and behave alike like those of previous times, so they might resemble people of the past, but they are not the exact same people of the past.
Spending an eternity in punishments is just another way to make up for your crimes and misdeeds when you are alive. Punishments come in many ways, and it suits your misdeeds of all forms. It cannot be avoided unless you're good all your life.
So, you end up well being compared to your other friends. Of course you grief for them. But, what more can you do? They did worse things, not you. It's their responsibility to behave, and only they can change themselves. You can do nothing more than merely persuade them to turn over and start anew.
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Post by FDSuprema on May 9, 2008 1:57:58 GMT -5
My belief is that. when you die, every deed in your life is weighed upon you, and if your bad deeds were heavier than your good, you are sent back to this world to "Redo" your life, but if your good deeds are heavier, you are sent to some sort of heavenly plain of existence. In otherwords, I believe that we are already in Hell.
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Post by viruszero on May 9, 2008 14:58:26 GMT -5
Regardless of what ever actually happens to us after we die there is only one way to find out and we're all inching closer to it ever second of our lives...
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Post by Captain SpExtacular on May 9, 2008 15:07:30 GMT -5
Now thats positive.
Well, since nobody can say for sure what's gonna happen then how bout we all stop worrying about it enjoy what we got right now.
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Post by MasterOmegaX on May 9, 2008 18:34:17 GMT -5
I believe something very close to what J.Y. has stated as well.
I dont really believe in afterlife much eiether, but I've always had a made up theory that when you die you lose all your memories and start a new life of some newborn. I just like to think this way since it's interesting that you could've been a past life of someone long ago.
Whether or not I believe in the afterlife; I can't imagine not having a conciousness at all, so this is my reason for thinking this way.
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Post by Peytral on May 11, 2008 20:46:50 GMT -5
My belief is that. when you die, every deed in your life is weighed upon you, and if your bad deeds were heavier than your good, you are sent back to this world to "Redo" your life, but if your good deeds are heavier, you are sent to some sort of heavenly plain of existence. In otherwords, I believe that we are already in Hell. Sounds like the Buddhist way of thinking, except less complex. As for me, I believe in afterlife, and Heaven and Hell for that matter.
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Post by Professor Fann on May 12, 2008 3:02:35 GMT -5
Aha, I have a curious question for those of you who believe in the afterlife.
What do you think if I propose that Hell is not supposed to be an essential part of the afterlife?
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