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Post by viruszero on Jun 3, 2007 13:18:34 GMT -5
At the end of the day the bible is just a book, and it was not written by God. It was written by a fallible being over 2000 years ago, in a time when magic or religion was the answer to everything. I will not deny religion has some power (especially in the field of medicine in bringing hope to people), but I do not grant that it is the be all, end all way of explaining anything.
But lets for instance sake say we write a new bible, we can utter bulls**t it all we want it doesn't matter (We could make them have to wear chickens on their heads on thursdays for all it matters). And in 2000 years they find it, and take it to be the religion. Does that mean it is right? Absolutely not, it doesn't change how things are. (This is basically an absurd version of our current bible. ) You can believe all you want but it doesn't make it true... Otherwise if for example I believe every morning that a great danish will rise from the ground, then I'm missing my danish cause it hasn't happened yet.
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Post by Professor Fann on Jun 6, 2007 0:13:52 GMT -5
... Such harsh points of view of the Bible.
Such mentality is the reason why the Western world's crumbling moral come to exist in the first place. Pursuing too much material science and denying invisible virtues.
And even scientifically, the Earth is in no position to be anihilated by the cosmos' comets and exploding stars but only by ourselves - corrupt behaviour, denial of what's not seen and lack of love and understanding. That's the eal Doomsday for mankind.
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Post by Paranoid on Jun 6, 2007 6:36:31 GMT -5
I'm not even gonna bother...
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Post by Captain SpExtacular on Jun 14, 2007 12:50:27 GMT -5
Well its only natural that one day our planet will die. We've seen supper novas happen in other galaxies and we do have lots o' volcanos. Now weather it happens all on one day because god desides to kill his sims or simply because my relligion's frase "Peanut Butter happens" comes along we dont have much say in the matter...Unless your coming to Mars with me.
And hey this is just my opinion but, I think that relligion was created to tame the masses of uncivilized humanity all those 2007 years ago or so (that just when christianity came around, the Jews were around a long time before that). So, relligion is a good thing because it teaches moral values, but i personally feel that its out dated and that god was created to instill fear among everyone to keep them good....alot like Santa Clause.
And now i wate for a bunch of angry replies ;D
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Post by Sorrum on Jun 14, 2007 14:52:08 GMT -5
Wow. Thats the best reason I've ever heard of for religion being created. I always questioned the church, even though I'm catholic.
If doomsday hits, we're all doomed. We can't survive on Mars, its that simple. And besides, even if we do get to Mars, what then? Everyone will blame someone else for Doomsday happening, that it'll just happen on Mars, and then what? Jupiter? We'll die before we reach Mars, so if Doomsday happens, I'm dying on Earth. Screw becoming 80 and getting to Mars where the retarded world leaders will start blaming people. ....Would they still be the leaders if Doomsday happened? I mean, they caused Doomsday, thats reason enough to kill them on sight, would we really let them keep leading us?
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Post by Captain SpExtacular on Jun 14, 2007 19:55:30 GMT -5
O no dont worry about world leaders on mars. I'm going there and taking it for myself, and killing anyone who trys to take my power....<Incert Evil Laugh Here>. And from Mars we go to galactical conquest on a space station to that one planet we just found that could hold human life...but is way the fudge out in the universe. Bet for an actual doomsday? It's along way off, even with "Global Warming".
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Post by Ruinaru on Jun 14, 2007 21:34:07 GMT -5
To Sorrum:
In my Info-Tech class last semester, we were supposed to bring in an article on upcoming technology every Wednesday. One week, I brought in an article about making Mars inhabitable. They had the entire thing worked out, and even though it would take a couple thousand years, it could work.
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Post by memor on Jun 15, 2007 3:02:40 GMT -5
polls messing with my mind constantly saying i dodn't make a choice, dam the poll, proboards can do something about it
anyway, i've always belived that Doomsday was that or Armagedon, the Ultimate Sin of man kind, where darkness will overflow our world destroying the light, those who are follower of the light shall be destroy, those who are follower of the darkness shall be lord while people like me who's hearts are tainted in both light and darkness will live in the shadows or take sides, mankind will attempt to flee to other planets but darkness seeps into the seems of the universe, consuming all the planets and doon only darkness will pervail, either that or the Trinity Blood Armagedon where the old world will be left in ruins, a new world is born but the Vampire return from myths of old to claim their place and thus the whole Trinity Blood thing where either your on the side of the Vampires or the Vadican's side
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Post by Arashi on Jun 15, 2007 4:24:38 GMT -5
I have a different view on doomsday. Yes, I believe it will happen indefinately, as all eras have has a mass extinction of sorts, and we live in the only era that so far hasn't. I don't think mother nature or anything of the like will bring the end upon us however, but I believe that a war of sorts will. In other words, mankind will bring their own extinction upon itself.This has been predetermined, imo, by mankind's prefference of violence over thought, so it would only make sense. Not to mention that we do a good job at destroying resources, killing of animal species, and pollutiong the air, which leads to global warming. I don't know how it isn't seen, but we will indefinately cause our own extinction, and in only a matter of time.
...Its rare I talk all technical and stuff like this, btw xD
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Post by Professor Fann on Jun 20, 2007 12:01:23 GMT -5
How about thinking of it this way.
What if you were the Creator instead and you created a world after painstaking billions of years? You see everything just the way you like it and you feel very happy anf joyous for yourself. And then you start to create humans because you are lonely.
Would you want to launch Armageddon and destroy all your reations? It's exactly the same as some otehr people saying that your artwork or sprites stink when you feel it's good and you love it. I would think you guys prefer not to cause destruction.
Otherwise, you as the Creator in this case would find people on Earth expressing opinions as what you said earlier - doubting religion, role of people, end of the world. Does that make you sad?
.. IF not, I think I am talking to a bunch of indirectly-atheists and indirectly-Marxists here.
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Post by Captain SpExtacular on Feb 17, 2008 1:45:26 GMT -5
If I was god, then yes. I would definatly start killing people in horrible ways. Just look at what happend to the dinosaurs! God can't feel time, and he can create more humans at any rate he wants. For all we know we're next on his hit list! For this reason we should all run around screaming for forgivnes. But if god is still me that would only intice him to kill us more brutally! So the only way to stop it would be to kick god in nuts! And only he knows how many he has. Holy crap! What if you killed god? What would happen then? I bet the devil would take over, then he'd kill himself because he'd have nothing to do! Which brings up a good point, maby god already killed himself. Dose that mean he's chillin with satan? Cause suicide is somthing that can't be forgiven....this is making my head hurt. But hold on here people, in Judism then there is no satan...and wasn't that around before christianity? Not only that Hell wasn't even a concept until about 800-1200 a.d. How do i know that? Simple Hell was a Viking concept for people who didn't enter Valhalla. Christians were so terrified of this idea that they stole it. So if there is no hell, then why is everyone so freakin scared? Even better is that if Jesus died for our sins, then we can screw up all we want and still be safe. So that being said then doomsday can't be caused by god, maby by man or other causes.
I'm a nihilist, and I hate Commies.
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Post by Paranoid on Feb 17, 2008 8:13:41 GMT -5
Woah, I never knew nihilism existed...I think you've just converted me from atheism.
Accoring to science, the universe is infinite. Thus there is a finite chance that there is doomsday. The only reason you are all alive today is because on day a whole bunch of particles blasted out of a star desided to come together and for a macromolecule. and couple of these macromolecules came together, evolved over a bunch of million years, and then you were born. You were created by random chance and will die by it.
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Post by Goku Goku Gadget Saiyan on Feb 17, 2008 10:58:41 GMT -5
At a scientific standpoint... YES. THERE WILL BE A DOOMSDAY. But in a Billion years, not in a few. Thats when the oceans will dry up, and life can no longer exist due to the immense temperature. However, by then, we will have learned to terra-form other planets, and traveled to said planets. (Hopefully.)
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Post by viruszero on Feb 17, 2008 15:00:56 GMT -5
I stand by what I said earlier. The bible is just a book of fiction. There seems to be more evidence against a God then there is for a God.
The bible is a good story for scaring small children and easily frightened people into being good. And while it has some good values, if those values were just taught to people (without the divine punishment and mysticism aspects) then the same effect would be realised. But the problem is that we have bad parents who look to blame their mistakes on everyone else, and who don't teach these values.
One of my professors said: "To have faith, you must abandon reason." And I believe that this quote does have some truth to it. Faith and Reason are at odds with each other. And they each have differing reasons for why the same values work. EX- what it's wrong to murder: Faith- God said so. Obey God. Reason- Others value their lives, their family values them, Friends value them. Killing them takes everything away from them. So don't do it.
The reason is alot more compelling than simply being told: "Cause God said so."
So that being said, I would say that religion holds no power here for Doomsday... on the grounds that: 1- Religion is false 2- Even if by some miracle I was wrong, then I believe that God would probably not want to destroy humanity unless he/she/it absolutely had to.
Fanwriter... As far as God destroying the earth, it's possible, but it'd be more likely that we'd end up causing the doomsday ourselves. What with the freewill that was supposedly given to us by God...
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Post by Subaru_kun on Feb 17, 2008 15:48:07 GMT -5
Doomsday! Sonic 3!!!
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